Dennis Johnson sat down for a short interview with Robert Siegel on All Things Considered to discuss the state of book trailers and just what makes them so laughably bad.

Full transcript and audio are available here. Important note: you’ll have a lot more fun listening to this than reading it. It just isn’t the same without the terrible book trailer audio.

It’s not all bad though. As Dennis says: “There are some great book trailers. You know, it’s like any other art form, there’s 98 percent dreck, but there’s two percent magnificent.” So check out the “Best of” winners and nominees for what the Wall Street Journal called “absurdist masterpiece(s).”